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Post time 21-6-2012 00:40:55 |Show all posts
Edit:
[Chinese Pet Evolve selection - Primary + Secondary
http://gdomurmur.blogspot.com/2011/09/blog-post.html] (My Post in this thread about it)
Edit 2:
Slowly adding in new info for other types of Builds
Edit 3:
Upon further research, I found out Fight Pet's Physical Attacks deal more damage than Elemental Attacks.
The amount is about 50% more damage.
Edit 4:
Sry about not finishing the charts, currently busy atm.

Also visit my "Common Merge Pet (Easy Evolves)"

1.0 Merge + Fight Pets
1.1 Sorcerer
1.2 Fighter
1.3 Warrior
1.4 Shaman
1.5 Archer
1.6 Assassin
1.7 Guard
1.8 Spirit Wizard
1.9 Hunter


So... with the new Pet Evolve system out.

I decided to get some new stronger pets for some of my character.
And after some searching around pets and their Merge/ Fight skills... I came up with this...
(Most pets can be obtained from level 25 below Pets and Boss Pets)
(Merge and Fight Pets are of 2 different pets)




1.0 Merge + Fight Pets (Evolution)
1.1 Sorcerer
DPS
Merge = ATTACK + (LUCK -or- mCRIT DMG) + mCRIT RATE
                   ( (B)Sakura Pig + (G)Young Snow Wolf ) + ( (G)Young Snow Wolf + (G)Young Snow Wolf )
Fight = ( SLOW -or- ATTACK ) + STUN
                   ( (B)Baite + (G)Furious Bird ) + ( (G)Furious Bird + (G)Furious Bird )
                            Either Attack or DoubleHit Pet fight passive is useful
                            DoubleHit lv.3 have 42% to proc (this effect's % is stackable with DoubleHit % from Pet Equips)
~~ ( Since Sorc don't have any Stun moves, the Lv.03 - 5 second stun is most beneficial )

Support
Merge = MOVE SPD + CAST SPD + SPIRIT
                   ( (B)Tatala + (G)Sand Jelly Fish ) + ( (G)Sand Jelly Fish + (G)Sand Jelly Fish )
Fight = SLOW  + STUN
                   ( (B)Lawanear + (G)Lil Assault Boar ) + ( (G)Lil Assault Boar + (G)Lil Assault Boar )
                            There are many combinations for Slow + Stun, just choose the pet you like the most
                            But it's best to have Fight Pet's passive as +Attack or +Aggro for a Support
~~ ( Even tho Cast Spd and Spirit doesn't affect Renewal, but if you do get Invigorate as your main heal, you can heal as good as a Shaman )
~~ ( Aggro passive because you can use the Pet as a Tank )

1.2 Fighter
DPS
Merge = ATTACK + STRENGTH + pCRIT DMG
                   ( (B)Baite + (G)Furious Bird ) + ( (G)Furious Bird + (G)Furious Bird )
Fight = SLOW+ Lower DEF
                   ( (B)Kemaji + (G)Bone Grub ) + ( (G)Bone Grub + (G)Bone Grub )
                   ( (B)Lawanear + (G)Bone Grub ) + ( (G)Bone Grub + (G)Bone Grub )
                            You may choose any Pet or Boss with -Def or Slow
                            Such as Blue with Slow, Green with -Def, or vice-versa
~~ ( Strength because Fighter already have a higher crit rate especially with Skill )
~~ ( Fighter is already good in Stun area, so the only thing left is Slow )
~~ ( The Lower Def is a Must. )

Dodge Hybrid
Merge = ATTACK + EVADE + pCRIT RATE
                   ( (B)Sporeling + (G)Mean Bird ) + ( (G)Mean Bird + (G)Mean Bird )
Fight = Reduce HIT+ Lower DEF
                   ( (B)Skag + (G)Fruit Grub ) + ( (G)Fruit Grub + (G)Fruit Grub )
                            Reduce Hit = more Dodge
~~ ( As a Dodge Hybrid, the more Evade or Lower Hit debuff the better )
~~ ( But as a warning, you won't actually get as high of Evade as Assassin or Archer )
~~ ( On the Good Side, you are able to solo better and in AoE )

Tank
Merge = HP + EVADE + DEFENSE
                   ( (B)Baka + (G)Sporeling ) + ( (G)Sporeling + (G)Sporeling )
Fight = Reduce HIT+ Lower DEF
                   ( (B)Skag + (G)Fruit Grub ) + ( (G)Fruit Grub + (G)Fruit Grub )
                            There are not that many pets with -Hit as their First or Second Fight Skill
                            Most with -Hit are Blue Pets with Third Fight Skill
                            Tho I chose Fruit Grub because they have +Attack Fight Passive, it's better than +Def Fight Passive
                            That and Blue Fruit Grub also have Reduce HIT as Third Fight Skill
~~ ( Fighter already have a good Evade by default, and there's also a Fighter Skill that increase Attack when Dodge )
~~ ( Reduce HIT = more Dodge for you = better Tank or trigger said Fighter Skill = more DMG = better Tank )

1.3 Warrior
DPS
Merge = ATTACK + STRENGTH + pCRIT DMG
                   ( (B)Baite + (G)Furious Bird ) + ( (G)Furious Bird + (G)Furious Bird )
Fight = Stun + Lower DEF
                   ( (B)Kemaji + (G)Overlord Flower ) + ( (G)Overlord Flower + (G)Overlord Flower )
                   ( (B)Guard Dog + (G)Fruit Grub ) + ( (G)Fruit Grub + (G)Fruit Grub )
                            You may choose any Pet or Boss with -Def or Stun
                            Such as Blue with -Def, Green with Stun, or vice-versa
~~ ( Even tho Warrior can benefit from pCrit Rate, but Warrior by default can have the highest Strength in game )
~~ ( Warrior by default... don't have much of a Stun skill, and it's only a % to stun. )
~~ ( Lower Def... yea, smack smack. )

Tank
Merge = HP + REFLECT + DEFENSE
                   ( (B)Baka + (G)Spiral Crab ) + ( (G)Spiral Crab + (G)Spiral Crab )
Merge 2 =HP + STRENGTH + DEFENSE
                   ( (B)Lil Webspinner + (G)Lil Webspinner ) + ( (G)Lil Webspinner + (G)Lil Webspinner )
Merge 3 =HP + BLOCK + DEFENSE
                   ( (B)Baka + (G)Shell Jelly ) + ( (G)Shell Jelly + (G)Shell Jelly )
Fight = STUN + Lower DEF
                   ( (B)Guard Dog + (G)Fruit Grub ) + ( (G)Fruit Grub + (G)Fruit Grub )
                            Same reason as DPS, Warrior benefit from the Stun Skill
Fight 2 = Reduce HIT+ Lower DEF
                   ( (B)Skag + (G)Fruit Grub ) + ( (G)Fruit Grub + (G)Fruit Grub )
                            If however you decide to add a whole bunch of points into Stampede and use it as your Main Stun
                            You can choose Reduce Hit instead (but I won't recommend it to go with a Reflect build)
~~ ( There are 3 Merge because Warrior can have many types, unlike Fighter who gets most out of Evade )
~~ ( Reflect can be stack with Warrior's Spirit Form, so it's very useful )
~~ ( Strength and Block, both gives parry, so it's good to reduce the physical damage taken to tank longer and better )

1.4 Shaman
DPS
Merge = ATTACK + mCRIT DMG + mCRIT RATE
                   ( (B)Sakura Pig + (G)Young Snow Wolf ) + ( (G)Young Snow Wolf + (G)Young Snow Wolf )
Fight = SLOW  + STUN
                   ( (B)Lawanear + (G)Lil Assault Boar ) + ( (G)Lil Assault Boar + (G)Lil Assault Boar )
                            Slow stacks with Lightning Bolt & Stun is better than Tornado
Fight 2 = ATTACK + SLOW
                   ( (B)Lawanear + (G)Armor Grub ) + ( (G)Armor Grub + (G)Armor Grub )
                            If you think Tornado is enough, go for the DoT Attack + Slow
~~ ( Merge is the same as DPS Sorc, most important is Attack and mCrit Dmg or Rate )
~~ ( As Shaman already have Stun attack, you can either still get a Pet with Stun for up to 5 sec or a Pet with extra Dmg)

Support
Merge = MOVE SPD + CAST SPD + SPIRIT
                   ( (B)Tatala + (G)Sand Jelly Fish ) + ( (G)Sand Jelly Fish + (G)Sand Jelly Fish )
Fight = SLOW AoE + STUN AoE
                   ( (B)Lawanear + (G)Lil Assault Boar ) + ( (G)Lil Assault Boar + (G)Lil Assault Boar )
Fight 2 = SLOW AoE + Reduce Hit
                   ( (B)Lawanear + (G)Skeleton Soldier ) + ( (G)Skeleton Soldier + (G)Skeleton Soldier )
                            There are many combinations for Slow + Stun or Reduce Hit, just choose the pet you like the most
                            But it's best to have Fight Pet's passive as +Attack or +Aggro for a Support
~~ ( Cast Spd and Spirit benefits Shaman the most, as all of their Heals gets bonus from it )
~~ ( Even tho Shaman already have Stun, but 4~5 sec from Pet is better than 2~3 from Tornado )
~~ ( Or you can Reduce target's Hit rate so they damage you less often (more dodge for you or Tank) )

1.5 Archer
Phy DPS
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .

Attack Speed
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .

Mag DPS
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .

Kite
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .

1.6 Assassin
DPS
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .

Dodge Crit
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .

Dodge Speed
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .

Mag DPS
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .

1.7 Guard
DPS
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .

1.8 Spirit Wizard
DPS
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .

Support
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .

1.9 Hunter
Phy DPS
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .

Mag DPS
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .

Attack Speed
Merge =
                   (
Fight =
                   (
                            .



That's it for now, since each merge and fight pets requires a LOT of pets to get the right combination and possibly best Level in Merge or Fight Skills.

Edit:
After some extensive self research and many many Pet Training...

I figured out the (- reducing Effects) don't stack
-Defense
-Evade/ Dodge
-Attack Speed/ Movement Speed

None of them Stack with any other Pet nor Character Skill/ Attacks.

When there are more than 1 of same Reducing Effect on a Target (even when there's no "Immunity")
The one with the highest effect will be active, the rest are Nulled.

Example:
A Pet with -38% Attack/ Move Speed and a Character Skill with -30%.
What you would think is you get -68% total on the casted Target.
But you're Wrong.
Only the -38% is active, while the -30% do nothing, even tho the icon is on the Target.




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Post time 21-6-2012 01:15:19 |Show all posts
I have a question regarding Sorc Fight pet. Does the pet need to be lightning element? Because my fight pet right now is ice element with Slow AoE + Stun AoE.

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Meh, the elemental attack of Pet doesn't matter that much.
It's just because of the type of Pets I evolved with to get Lightning element.



But I do notice during "AFK farm" most people's pets with Lightning element tends to kill faster, donno why.
Than next is Shadow...
(it might just be the mobs they're killing are weak to lightning, LOL)
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Post time 21-6-2012 03:04:08 |Show all posts
You could replace the stat passives for merge with HP.
Stat passives arent really that good imo.
You can't go wrong with an extra 300-400 hp.

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Post time 21-6-2012 07:59:59 |Show all posts
Why no physical critical rate for fighter/warrior? o.o

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As for HP... not really sure which better, 300+ HP vs 100+ DMG... (1 STR = 5 DMG, 5~7% STR of 300 = 15 ~ 21 (or 75 ~ 105 DMG) - and I know Warriors can get more than 300 STR easily.
Strength also gives parry.


As for the Critical Rate (# Value) - 5% ~ 7% increase.

After some self-research.
As a DPS Fighter, they already have the +9% (FIX) Crit Rate increase, which is better than the Pet Merge Crit Rate, which is "scaled".
Basically the 9% Fighter buff is like 30% of Critical Rate Pet Merge.
So there was no real need for any more Critical Rate increase from Pet Merge.

Warrior on the other hand, could use the Critical Rate.
But as said above, STRENGTH benefits Warriors best, and from what I know, most dps type warrior gets Luck, meaning more Crit Rate. (and suggested by someone in another thread)
Thus is why I decided Crit Damage would be better, as you only need around 30~40% Critical Rate to do a Crit in every 2~3 hits.


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Post time 21-6-2012 14:24:52 |Show all posts
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Well...

While looking at Chinese Pet Merge and Evolve suggestions.

I came across this site (which I thought it was useful)

http://gdomurmur.blogspot.com/2011/09/blog-post.html

What it is... is you select 3 Fight or Merge skills.
Than the system will than choose the pets that can achieve the Evolve Skills.
Tho the Selection is a bit hard to use, since all Skills that you select is very very specific...

Or you can select one of the Pre-Generated Selections by popular demand



Now... anyone want to try making one for the English? (I suck at website making / programs)
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Post time 8-7-2012 11:39:03 |Show all posts
Is there a way to obtain [ Attack Movespeed Mcrit rate] for merge pet..?

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Post time 8-7-2012 15:53:55 |Show all posts
Ciddylicious replied at 8-7-2012 11:39
Is there a way to obtain [ Attack Movespeed Mcrit rate] for merge pet..?

yes there is, in fact, i sold a 2 star with those exact merge skills for 15g..

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Post time 23-7-2012 12:02:52 |Show all posts
For fighters/masters wouldn't +hp as merge better than the +crit damage especially they uses the HP/Def Tree?
+Att / +Str / +HP
Huge Damage + Survivability

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Post time 23-7-2012 12:48:24 |Show all posts
Possibly.

If you're aiming for the HP/ Def Tree.

You can go for something like +ATK, STR and HP

But Fighters being low on +Crit Damage (from passive skills) and being high on +Crit Rate...
Meaning Fighters Crit a lot, so +Crit Damage deal more damage more often.

And being a DPS, you should get as much DPS as possible, since Fighters already have high HP, mostly enough to survive (you're not meant to be a "TANK" when you're going DPS....)
(Masters are not TANKS... they're DPS, if you want TANK, head for the Wanderer Route)

Tho if you PvP more, than go for HP.


I am currently playing a Katana Fighter, LOL
Low on Crit Damage due to weapon, so the Pet compensate over it.
But my Crit Rate is high enough so that I deal a Crit in every 2~3 hits.
And since Katana have high Base Damage, it means the Crit Damage is boosted even further than when using a Glove by at least 500~1000 damage.
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Where can I get the Blue Sakura Pig? I always get the green ones. Thanks

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Blue or green comes from same Sakura Pig, you're just not lucky enough to get the blue one yet, solution : try again!




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Post time 17-8-2012 05:18:33 |Show all posts
sorry Im not sure if im necroposting, but I got a question about pet evolution.

first, you wrote this "( (B)Guard Dog + (G)Fruit Grub ) + ( (G)Fruit Grub + (G)Fruit Grub )"

how do I do this? I mean I need a guard dog then evolve it with a lvl 30 green fruit grub? then evolve it again with the product of evolving 2 green fruit grubs?


second, how do you determine the skills of the pet you evolve, I mean. I read that if you evolve your pet you got a chance to level up its skills or change one of the skills? please clarify this.

and lastly, if you can change the skills of the pet. how can I get a pet with slow + double attack + stun?

thanks in advance =))

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Post time 17-8-2012 05:40:37 |Show all posts
- guard dog + fruit grub = 1* guard dog
fruit grub + fruit grub = 1* fruit grub
1* guard dog + 1* fruit grub = 2* guard dog

- The skills are randomly determined. U can get random skills between the pets used to evolve, with random level.

- Evolve pets with those skills(blue furious bird has stun and double hit, evolve it with other pets hav slow). Or u can try to get blue fiery flower, it has all those skills and evolve with 3 others green one.
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z3r0 replied at 17-8-2012 05:40
- guard dog + fruit grub = 1* guard dog
fruit grub + fruit grub = 1* fruit grub
1* guard dog + 1* fr ...


ahh now I see. thank you very much for clearing that up for me

lastly, why fruit grub for guard dog? for its defense debuff?

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Post time 17-8-2012 13:47:05 |Show all posts
Yes, and because Fruit Grub's -DEF is "Physical" it deal 2x more damage than elemental -DEF

Fruit Grub's Fight Passive is also +Attack, so it can deal even more damage from -DEF attack.
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Post time 17-8-2012 16:53:18 |Show all posts
I see. so its good for warriors.

my last few questions about evolving pets.

is there a guard dog + fruit grub version for mages? I mean instead of -DEF is there a -resist?
and since you guys said that skills will be random when merging pets, then would it be better to merge similar pets? I mean for example guard dog + guard dog. so the skills wont change.

lastly, since I need lvl 30 pets before I can use them for evolving. where do I level them that fast?
Im a lvl 30 sorc atm

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Post time 17-8-2012 23:13:08 |Show all posts
- There's no -resist pet skill atm
- Ofc the skills wont change when evolving same kind of pet, but guard dog doesnt have -def skill, and that's the point here.
- Under level 40: dungeons or space-time rip(this one is dangerous though). From lv40 and above, jade crisis. I'm using space-time as main method, can do it any time other than once per day.
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