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Post time 6-1-2010 21:34:30 |Show all posts
Ok, so almost everyone agrees that getting nothing for achievement points is lame, right? So I want to know what you think would be a good reward for every (random number) 50 achievement points earned? Keep in mind, achievement points gained from the KOK Cup do not count.
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Big thumbs up from me for 4 and 5. I picked 5 because it sounds more awesome, even though it's lots more work. 3 is fine, a safe route. 1 and 2 I'm okay with too if KOK cup points don't count, but 1 kind of kills the random system this game has implanted everywhere else, and it could be annoying if you kept getting crap stats randomly.

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Post time 7-1-2010 00:03:14 |Show all posts
I think this is a absolutely fantastic idea; I'm a big fan of 5 --though 4 was a contender as well.

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Post time 7-1-2010 00:23:45 |Show all posts
I think we all want to be unique in all own way. Looks color weapons color. Exp is mkoving faster thats good. I would recommending buying experience. to lvl faster make it equal always give weekly new expeditions. More hair, mopre honor, more experience.
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Post time 7-1-2010 21:48:15 |Show all posts
Oh wow, this got a sticky. The staff must like this?

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Post time 8-1-2010 10:08:57 |Show all posts
nope, it's a temp sticky, everyone can do it if he knows the magic

but anyway of course i voted 4,
i absolutly do not want achievement points to interfere with the game in any way.

still i did not understand the "achievement points from KoK Cup"
you get points for that? i thought it only counts how many time you got title "x"




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Post time 8-1-2010 10:34:22 |Show all posts
Post Last Edit by [email protected] at 9-1-2010 01:56

Post Last Edit by [email protected] at 9-1-2010 01:39

You get 50 points for every KoK Cup you win. So I think Erik means that since mostly the same people keep winning the cup, it'd make options 1 and 2 unfair to everyone else.  So he's saying the points you earn there don't count because it'll just make those same champions that much stronger than us, and no one would choose those options with that train of thought--though no one chose them anyway... =P

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Post time 8-1-2010 12:08:06 |Show all posts
that's a reason i choose 4 (would work with 5 too)

then there would be no reason to not count the points from there




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Post time 8-1-2010 12:55:54 |Show all posts
Post Last Edit by [email protected] at 9-1-2010 04:01

Post Last Edit by [email protected] at 9-1-2010 03:59

Though now that I really think about it I see a problem with 5 too. Let's say there is someone who can win the KoK cup daily, there could only be so many styles available to unlock. With option 4 it could be the same problem to a certain extent, but it's a lot easier to make a bunch of different colors for the same accessory than it is to make a whole different wardrobe.

The only way I can see  5 working is if the achievement point cost doubles for each style you unlock.

Edit: I seem to have forgotten Erik's initial "Kok cup achievements do not  count", that's another way it'll work.. o.O

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Post time 9-1-2010 12:47:58 |Show all posts
Post Last Edit by Erik Magnusson at 9-1-2010 13:49

That was my whole issue with achievement points, how to make it fair for everyone. So you have to either stop giving points for it, or don't count them. So far the poll is going pretty much the way I thought it would go, though I am surprised that #3 is doing so well. I though more people would want to unlock more costumes... hey, it's good to be surprised.

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Post time 9-1-2010 12:54:04 |Show all posts
i wasn't surprised..
people are greedy, and want to quicken their game all the time,

it's the same thing with cheats in games.
people use it out of greed, because they want to be more powerful, or achieve a task quicker,
not realizing that they destroy their own fun with the game.

that's why i'm so against influencing the game through achiev. points.
it would ruin the normal way of the game. it's already quicker thanks to quests




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Post time 9-1-2010 13:29:18 |Show all posts
Wow, 3 just got popular out of no where... It was only at one vote last I seen it.

They don't even need to take out the points for winning the KoK cup, just give them the achievement for the first time they accomplish it. It's silly to earn achievement points for the same thing over and over.

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Post time 9-1-2010 14:28:12 |Show all posts
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that's actually a good idea.

still hope for my belts, or medals to win

re-stickied it btw.




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Post time 9-1-2010 14:58:55 |Show all posts
I have poor achievement points anyways.  Don't really wanna brag with some status symbol.  A new costume would be cool.

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Post time 9-1-2010 15:38:43 |Show all posts
I wouldn't mind 4, even people in the Air Force feel some sense of accomplishment when they become an Airman. (I suck at analogies)

By the way 100k, I like your profile pic. It's very nostalgic; for some reason it reminds me of Schoolhouse Rock.

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Post time 9-1-2010 15:40:48 |Show all posts
I can see getting the achievement points for it once, because it is an achievement...

No wait, scratch that, not everyone will achieve winning the KOK tournament so it still wouldn't be fair. All the other achievements can be received through perseverance and over time, but not that one.

Perhaps instead of getting achievement points, they got some kind of visual cue like #4?

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Post time 9-1-2010 15:50:02 |Show all posts
Post Last Edit by [email protected] at 10-1-2010 06:51

So what you're saying is that instead getting 50 achievement points for winning a cup you could get something equivalent to option 4? I like that idea; it'll make it possible to implement options 4 and 5 which are both good ideas and be fair at the same time.

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Post time 9-1-2010 15:57:41 |Show all posts
Seems pretty fair to me.

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Post time 9-1-2010 16:23:34 |Show all posts
just when did achievements turn into "things everybody can accomplish" ?

achievements don't have to be fair, they have to be a hard goal that only the strongest can achieve.

true that in this game mostly money makes you strong.
still i don't mind if only those people get that achievement.




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Post time 9-1-2010 19:57:24 |Show all posts
I don't feel that way about achievements... they have to be achievable. And winning the KOK tournament is not for 90% of the people here.

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