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Post time 29-4-2012 04:56:43 |Show all posts
Should we ban Fredcop for discarding KickMyButt gears, stealing his gems and discarding Asgard guild's warehouse?
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Post time 29-4-2012 05:02:42 |Show all posts
:L

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Post time 29-4-2012 05:04:25 |Show all posts
no need to do that la

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Post time 29-4-2012 05:21:50 |Show all posts
HAVE U GOT PROOF YET? I WILL LET GM TO DECIDED, ASK GM TO PING MY IP AND GM WILL NOT PING ANY SHIT WITH MY IP ADDRESS.. ANYWAY PLEASE DO VOTE AND AS IF GM CARES ABOUT IT.. HAHAHAHAHA
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Post time 29-4-2012 05:25:43 |Show all posts
see how arrogant he is

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Post time 29-4-2012 05:28:17 |Show all posts
LOL use more alt to voted for yes hahaha IDIOT
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Post time 29-4-2012 05:31:01 |Show all posts
Of course they can be arrogant! U forgot Symplordz is the almighty all conquering quild? And whatever they do is always right and we are always wrong? LOL! ALL HAIL SYMPLORDZ!
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Post time 29-4-2012 05:31:28 |Show all posts
pusssssy SLs......

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Post time 29-4-2012 05:44:10 |Show all posts

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Post time 29-4-2012 07:25:02 |Show all posts
i think it's safe to say that even a law student can tell that has to be the weakest  so called evidence, at best that can be used as circumstantial.  all that screenshot shows is fredcop sent a msg to kooxia.  what's the content? as if any of us really know.   Fredcop can log in to kooxia character, says the person who replied at least and provided the person replying is actually kooxia.  Screenshot of 2 lines of a conversation really can quote things out of context.  Unless GM checked and say that Fredcop was the one in that char during the time of incident, otherwise another useless line.  

GM should really just look at your logs and find out the person that was using that char at that time and clarify the issue, one person after another that certain individuals have prejudice over have been accused.  Defamation is not a laughing matter, and no less serious than bannable offenses like racist comments.  

And I do not support return of items lost by people who breach the terms and conditions by sharing accounts unless proven that login was made with 3rd party software hacking and not the result of sharing password with others.

There was also an incident of  someone using char "bellbell" and emptied Symplordz guild warehouse.  When action is taken, if any, I would expect Koramgame to take similar actions against the perpetrator(s) of both incidents.
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Post time 29-4-2012 07:32:47 |Show all posts
FangFang aka Fredcop admitted it himself.
He logged in to Selena to show us the reason why those items were lost.

You are trying very hard to cover up by kicking KooXia from your guild.
It is definitely someone from Symplord who stole items.
Prime suspect is Fredcop and whatever the case is, he could have divulged KMB's password to another person if he himself is not the culprit.

Damage control eh?

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Post time 29-4-2012 07:43:32 |Show all posts
Naer replied at 29-4-2012 22:32
FangFang aka Fredcop admitted it himself.
He logged in to Selena to show us the reason why those ite ...


"FangFang aka Fredcop admitted it himself.
He logged in to Selena to show us the reason why those items were lost."

No comment, not online at the time.



"You are trying very hard to cover up by kicking KooXia from your guild."

Speculation



"It is definitely someone from Symplord who stole items."

Speculation, but agree there.


"Prime suspect is Fredcop and whatever the case is, he could have divulged KMB's password to another person if he himself is not the culprit."

At this point of time, that's probably the only person that we can accuse.  Again logging into an account with password shared is not a breach of term and condition.  Just like scammers we see people shout about every other week about someone not sending back items.  The so called victims are the ones who bear responsibility here.  Hopefully people will stop sharing accounts if they can't afford to lose stuff as a result.


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Post time 29-4-2012 07:58:22 |Show all posts
Lazy replied at 29-4-2012 22:43
"FangFang aka Fredcop admitted it himself.
He logged in to Selena to show us the reason why those  ...

U're not seeing the printscreen that was uploaded. Upon the time where KMB started saying in WorldChat about this Kooxia character...it was almost immediate that Fredcop posted that msg in their FB group - feel free to check it out - http://forum.koramgame.com/thread-58351-1-1.html

I know people can always say it's a coincidence but the aftermath of it all is the various reasons they start to come up with to defend themselves.

But well, everyone is entitled to their opinions. I aint stopping you from having yours and airing what you think.
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Post time 29-4-2012 08:13:50 |Show all posts
JonLee replied at 29-4-2012 22:58
U're not seeing the printscreen that was uploaded. Upon the time where KMB started saying in World ...


I can see your line of argument, it does raise suspicion, but looking at that screenshot again doesn't seem to show much, don't even have a time on it.  

Whatever it is, only GM can verify who really did it.  As for action, I can't really see anything being done. There really is no breach of terms, it's underhanded, despicable at best, but I doubt banning someone for being an xxxx is going to happen.

At best, GM though not obliged would take pity and restore KMB's items.  Or they don't and some or most asgard and ace member leave, doubt other clans will be leaving because of this.  That will probably hasten a merger of the remaining servers which a lot of people have been asking for.

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Post time 29-4-2012 08:18:12 |Show all posts
Lazy replied at 29-4-2012 23:13
I can see your line of argument, looking at that screenshot again doesn't seem to show much, don't ...

Alrite. At least u're a person of reasoning. I respect that. In the case of timing, all you can see is the post by Fred 9secs ago from mobile. Sorry but I cropped the pic for easier viewing. I can still upload the original one which actually shows a timing from my system/lappy. Shall do that if that makes a difference to you and when I not as lazy.
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Post time 29-4-2012 08:25:22 |Show all posts
well......let GM do the checking and the culprit will hv no way to hide...anyway if someone thinks he is innocent after all is said and done....he should cooperate in this investigation and not instigate more hatred......
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Post time 29-4-2012 08:44:18 |Show all posts
kingofdevil replied at 29-4-2012 23:25
well......let GM do the checking and the culprit will hv no way to hide...anyway if someone thinks h ...

Indeed both parties should leave the issue to GM.  GM is looking at the matter now, so people should just stop instigating more hatred

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Post time 29-4-2012 11:05:10 |Show all posts
Lazy replied at 29-4-2012 23:44
Indeed both parties should leave the issue to GM.  GM is looking at the matter now, so people shou ...

Lazy oh Lazy......dun steal my points and try use my comments for urself.....
think of ur own ideas

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Post time 29-4-2012 17:01:38 |Show all posts
pandaclar replied at 29-4-2012 20:25
see how arrogant he is


you call this arrogant? it is just a weak case and go nothing to prove...oh well the judge will be GM..
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Post time 29-4-2012 17:05:25 |Show all posts
slavedrive79@ya replied at 29-4-2012 20:44
http://forum.koramgame.com/thread-58351-1-1.html

this is proof

wow you hack into our Symplordz Facebook, wahhh hacking hacking....
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