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Post time 28-4-2012 20:43:46 |Show all posts
FUK3RS replied at 29-4-2012 08:22
I personally and i think all players will agree if Server 1 will merge with Server 2 & 3.

Server 4  ...


Agree with Fuk3r, No1 wanna merge 1-6 without any compensation then causing alot of trouble for later. The best i think is 2/3 servers merge to 1.

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Post time 28-4-2012 20:59:04 |Show all posts
Me too - agreed with Fuk3rs!

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Post time 28-4-2012 21:00:58 |Show all posts
Its good to know that Koramgame keep noticing abt DS's Loyalty Players. I dun know much abt S9-10 but i have some accs in s1-8, 11 from my friends so in my opinions, No1 like to merge 6 servers (1-6) immediately, they will complain like Compensations, big Gaps, .... So that i think its worth merging 2-3 servers to 1 like 1-3; 4-6, 10-11 to 1. That is more towards balancing the game. I hope my 2 cents counts
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Post time 28-4-2012 21:27:57 |Show all posts
The only reason for koramgames to have this initial plan was easy to manage 3 server than to 11 server. There is a need for merge because the lack of population.

In order to solve this issue, i suggest how about:
Elite & Legion - Quantity * 6 (If server 1,2,3,4,5,6)
Mine War - Every Mine (The number of people in a certain mine is also * 6)


As for compensation, i could speak to the GM but could any decent player make a proper suggestion thru my mail ?

I believe i could speak with the GM if everyone like this ideas please LIKE
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Post time 28-4-2012 22:27:06 |Show all posts
agree with fukers , just s1-s3 and s4-s6 , dont merge s1-s6

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Post time 28-4-2012 22:46:57 |Show all posts
Agree S1-S6 merging is BIG GAP better to merging S1-S3 and S4-S6
If Koram want to merge S1-S6 then Koram need to give each server's players (except S1) a boost, like the gap date between creating server S1-S2, S1-S3, S1-S4 so.. on.
Boost Example:
1. (The amount of date from creating S1 to S2)*12*(each players current Lv)*(Properity Lv) for silver. (For S2 players), need to be done for each server.
Note: 12 is the 12 times collected per day.
2. (The amount of date from creating S1 to S2)*24*1500 for BP. (For S2 players), need to be done for each server.
Note: 24 is the 24 rallies per day.

I hope this will create a balance from S1 to S6, If no compensation is given lots of players will quit DS because of huge gap after merging, then I guess DS will close down after that.

Note: Not yet talk about Mine War silver we can get LOLZ
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Post time 28-4-2012 22:50:14 |Show all posts
Merging Server Suggestions huh.

now we're talking

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Post time 28-4-2012 23:04:44 |Show all posts
I added +5 points for HanzoX for the merge. I will always prefer S1 - S3 / S4 - S6 .. and the rest is up to Koramgame Management.

Balance is the key word to everything ..... I hope these voice of customers will be considered in your judgement

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Post time 28-4-2012 23:30:48 |Show all posts
@Hanzo, as you said the need to merge is because of the population ... and I just want to add some of my input.

In my opinion to decide on which servers to merge, koram has to weight the following factors:
1) the number of players by tier (<lvl 100, lvl 110+, lvl 120+, lvl 130+) in each kingdom
2) the number of players actually logging in daily
3) players' opinions & reasons given on each and every server merger thread
4) server running time (as mentioned by many players) - compensation can solve this, type & amount as decided by Koram
5) If you want players to spend, you need to create to right environment. A level of competition that drives desire to play. Merge properly and you don't need 11 or even 110 servers to increase your total overall revenue, and lesser costs at the same time.

For #1 and #2, only Koram have the most accurate data.

The types of generals available to all kingdom players & used is almost the same after lvl 120, so the merger have to fair and equal. To merge a 3 servers giving WU a total of 10 lvl 130+, and SHU 20 lvl 130+, and WEI 15 lvl 130+ is not equal. It is true that players gain lvl according to their skill, time and gold and shouldn't be penalized when they grow faster then their peers. But if Koram is to merge, these 3 (skill, time & gold) shouldn't be taken into the consideration, since the idea and main priority of merger is to balance the population (total numbers and numbers of players at each tier)

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On s5, and s6 where I play and know a good number of players - we are aware that WU is a minority. And that's a fact that Koram can verify with their databases and log files. Merging s5+s6 is going to "kill off" more WU players and you can see the population declining further. It's a 3 way thing, lesser WU will eventually lead to lesser SHU and WEI because of targets (prestige). I'm sure no one wants to solve a problem by merging, and having the problem growing again. Other servers I'm not sure...so I won't comment.

And just a rant ... while many are complaining about fighting against people-who-have-too-much-time creating problems that are non-beneficial to everyone, and people who try-to-game-the-system ... we have to understand that this shouldn't be taken as a big factor in deciding which servers to merge. After all, this a problem that can be found on other servers too - bad sheep are everywhere....and we on s5 are dealing with such people too.
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Post time 28-4-2012 23:47:01 |Show all posts
Warzone replied at 29-4-2012 13:46
Agree S1-S6 merging is BIG GAP better to merging S1-S3 and S4-S6
If Koram want to merge S1-S6 then K ...

Yes no doubt there is gap but if you were to design this , the dev will have alot of work to do. I am trying to make it simple for the dev as well. Something reasonable would be consider.

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Post time 28-4-2012 23:52:53 |Show all posts
Warstormer replied at 29-4-2012 14:30
@Hanzo, as you said the need to merge is because of the population ... and I just want to add some o ...


@Hanzo, as you said the need to merge is because of the population ... and I just want to add some of my input.

In my opinion to decide on which servers to merge, koram has to weight the following factors:
1) the number of players by tier (<lvl 100, lvl 110+, lvl 120+, lvl 130+) in each kingdom
2) the number of players actually logging in daily

Point 1 and 2 can be done by their analysis, they actually have been doing it. Which is why they decided on this initial plan. What you can do is to make improvement for their suggestion.

3) players' opinions & reasons given on each and every server merger thread

They are doing it now, this is why this thread is open for suggestion.

4) server running time (as mentioned by many players) - compensation can solve this, type & amount as decided by Koram

They have not work out this, this is why i have stated if anyone have decent ideas pls feel free to send me a mail so i can work it out. Please be logical and reasonable.

5) If you want players to spend, you need to create to right environment. A level of competition that drives desire to play. Merge properly and you don't need 11 or even 110 servers to increase your total overall revenue, and lesser costs at the same time.

I don't think they are looking revenue for this merge, if they want revenue they would considering opening up more server. But currently Dynasty Saga is on maintain phase, which is just to maintain the current population.

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Post time 28-4-2012 23:55:19 |Show all posts
I think we are thinking too far here. The only problem we have here is compensation, which I think hanzox/GM can solve it quite easily (give gold,silver,BPs to newer server).
My suggestion: give fix amount. Example: 5m silver,1m bps,300 gold

In fact, regardless of who is owning (wu/wei/shu) is not a big deal. The main point of merge is having more players, kingdom chat not empty, etc. The merrier the happier.
It is not like merging is there for "balancing" the power of the three kingdom.
They want the merge so that they can handle DS easier. Hope events will be happening frequently after the merging done.

On side note, I hope this merging can be done soon. We all know 'soon' in koramgame could be 1-3 month, but hopefully this is not the case :p
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Post time 29-4-2012 00:03:41 |Show all posts
LoW replied at 29-4-2012 14:55
I think we are thinking too far here. The only problem we have here is compensation, which I think h ...

Thanks Low you spotted out what is koramgames actually doing.

We are not concern about power struggle with which kingdom and so on, we just want to build a competitive and active environment for the players. players will feel threaten as their asset is given away but why play at a server  when there is only few people around ?. I personally feel that this is now a Sim city games when you build and build and fight with among yourself But just take it as a game which we can enjoy most.

No doubt merging is a big matter, which need to go thru afew phase, now we are at the preliminary phase and after afew phase then we could start going into it.

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Post time 29-4-2012 00:04:11 |Show all posts
HanzoX replied at 29-4-2012 14:47
Yes no doubt there is gap but if you were to design this , the dev will have alot of work to do. I ...

So why not choose the easier way by merging S1-3 and s4-6, making the gaps to minimum? in that case compensation will even not  be required.

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Post time 29-4-2012 00:05:11 |Show all posts
FUK3RS replied at 29-4-2012 14:04
I added +5 points for HanzoX for the merge. I will always prefer S1 - S3 / S4 - S6 .. and the rest i ...

Yea, i knew that 1 - 6 is abit of tough. I will voice out with GM and we will determine what need to be done.

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Post time 29-4-2012 00:11:55 |Show all posts
Bach replied at 29-4-2012 15:04
So why not choose the easier way by merging S1-3 and s4-6, making the gaps to minimum? in that cas ...

Bach i am not the one to decide, i am just a messenger for DS,  please do not take me as the one to make this decision. You can provide constructive suggestion instead of questioning this decision make by koramgames.

I am just trying to deliver what koramgames want to achieve.

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Post time 29-4-2012 00:20:15 |Show all posts
just merge 1~6 ...at worst i'll stay in political city if other city being take over by those alt id

gaps..what gaps you mean....as far as i know only gaps  only between those who top up and those who doesn't likely every server ;p

just wondering if DS enter few like those vote for webgame websites to attracts more  player or not....then let them received few gold when they join(let them taste gold to lure them top up XD)
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Post time 29-4-2012 01:59:40 |Show all posts
Hanzo, no need to go defensive . I'm just giving some suggestions and inputs, not pushing you for answers. I know you are the middleman trying to help us players. As I already said Koram decides on compensation limits... I don't understand why it's not reasonable nor illogical?

4) server running time (as mentioned by many players) - compensation can solve this, type & amount as decided by Koram

They have not work out this, this is why i have stated if anyone have decent ideas pls feel free to send me a mail so i can work it out. Please be logical and reasonable.



Well, to implement changes from a macro or micro view, it's really up to Koram. Giving compensation is always the easiest way...difficult part is only matching people's expectation on what amount is fair.

Anyway, I don't hang around on the forum most of time because there's too much hot air, but this is a good thread to contribute I believe. I have said my piece, and looking forward to the merger soon.
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Post time 29-4-2012 02:07:57 |Show all posts
Warstormer replied at 29-4-2012 16:59
Hanzo, no need to go defensive  . I'm just giving some suggestions and inputs, not pushing you f ...

As in the suggestion make must be reasonable and logical for the dev and koramgames to achieve.

I receive request like:
Jades, Kirin Fragment, Butterfly Fragment which i felt is not possible to be given out as compensation.

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Post time 29-4-2012 02:42:36 |Show all posts
HanzoX replied at 29-4-2012 11:27
The only reason for koramgames to have this initial plan was easy to manage 3 server than to 11 serv ...

like ur idea brother .make it fast hapend

ps:sry my english bad
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