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Post time 5-3-2010 00:08:22 |Show all posts
Post Last Edit by wenbo.ren@kunlun-inc.com at 5-3-2010 15:19

Here are some hints on the stats. Hope it can suggest you on building your characters!

1.        Beginner stage (average Level 10).
Powerful weapons > skills > stats
In the beginner stage, people usually have neither abundant HP nor high stats. When everyone’s maximum HP is around 100, a powerful weapon that can hit 50 HP with one blow will make you a good sweeper.

2.        Early stage (average Level 20)
Useful skills > weapons > stats
Useful skills shine in the stage of Level 20. Skills such as Survivor, Evasive Dance, and Critical Hit play as a deciding factor in battles. I believe experienced players who have gone through this period will consent my point.

3.        Middle stage (average Level 30)
Higher state > skills > weapons
Once you enter the stage around Level 28, the importance of stats begins to manifest itself. In this period, the order of the 4 stats is: Speed > Strength > Agility > HP.  Be aware that I’m not saying that skills are no longer useful. Yet when two sides of a combat have similar skills, stats are more likely to affect the progress and the result of the battle. This trend will continue in later stages.

4.        Advanced stage (Level 38 or higher)
Higher state > skills > weapons
When the average HP reaches 170, the order of the 4 stats shall be rearranged into: Strength & Agility > HP & Speed. High Speed is not as appealing now as it was in the middle stage, whereas the less emphasized Agility state starts to bring you real surprises. Combining with Counter Attack and First Strike, 35 Agility points can give you a 90%+ average counter rate. High Strength and Agility has become the most popular choice for advanced KOK players.

The Seeds of Stats have led to a fashion of state reallocating. In response to the question of how to make the most of reallocation, I would suggest that players make decision according to their skills and HP. A player with high HP, Counter Attack, and Steel Armor may consider transferring Speed stats to Strength and Agility. Someone who has lower HP but obtains skills like Evasive Dance, King of Hammers, Sword Mastery, and Critical Hit will probably find higher Speed and Strength a wiser choice. If your stats and skills do not present a clear tendency, you may just try a balanced development.

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Post time 5-3-2010 00:17:15 |Show all posts
This is amazing. Your advanced section is exactly what I was thinking.

My only criticism is I believe it's spelled 'stats' not 'states'.

This is a very useful guide though, thanks!

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Post time 5-3-2010 00:20:18 |Show all posts
Edited. Thanks Nick.

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Post time 5-3-2010 00:26:59 |Show all posts
Great Post!
Tx a lot for the info Wenbo.Ren
it gives a clearer look on how to advance on high lvl
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Post time 5-3-2010 06:23:09 |Show all posts
Very helpful information. Thank you moderator.

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Post time 5-3-2010 15:13:09 |Show all posts
Wow this is a awesome guide. Thanks alot for adding it ^^
Guess i need to upgrade my agility for my character type

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Post time 5-3-2010 17:10:38 |Show all posts
thx for the post, it's great!
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Post time 5-3-2010 22:01:27 |Show all posts
Post Last Edit by 1308057@facebook at 6-3-2010 13:03

I have a question. I assume certain skills use stats to determine their probabilities. However, do they depend on the absolute value of the stat or relative value (versus opponent)?

For example, if 35 agility means 90% counter rate. Does this mean there is a value of agility for which the counter rate is 100%? Or is the increase asymptotic (e.g. some function like success rate = 1 - 1/(agility*C) )? Or is the counter rate dependent on your agility minus their X stat?

I can imagine a lot of ways to define these probabilities; I wonder if at some point stats will saturate the probabilities and no increase in stats will matter.

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Post time 6-3-2010 02:39:54 |Show all posts
i just dont think when you level up and randomly get stats on speed, strength, hp, and agility is fair at all. sometimes you dont even get any when you level up which is stupid imho. i can sort of understand about the weapons and abilities, but those are also kind of unfair also. some weapons are just too damn powerful. cause sometimes you just lose in 2 turns, cause of the weapon doubles up and does damage of 100+ which is ridiculous and weapons which are so cheap like the ninja star and rubber chicken/duck. where they constantly attack you with it and you cant attack back or even counter them. also everything is unbelieveably expensive..like 200 HONORS!?!? come on, seriously you have to admit that is way too much. you should lower it to at least 100 Honors i guess. thats still a lot. the only thing that i find that is fair is the pets cost and new costs for outfits and hairstyles..but why are dyes expensive? lol those should be in appearences and lowered too..so to sum it up..i think prices should be lowered and with stats..you should be able to choose what you want to upgrade..and get at least 2-4 points to choose what stat you want to upgrade

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Post time 6-3-2010 13:57:52 |Show all posts
^^ Please use paragraphs, that sh*t is hard to read...

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Post time 6-3-2010 15:12:07 |Show all posts
I would like to know how come SO many players are able to get their stats in the "purple" range?!   Is there something I don't know???

Wenbo, I also need some good advice?  I am currently Level 41 with a 69% win ratio.  What item in the shop will make me win all the time?  

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Post time 6-3-2010 18:53:21 |Show all posts
Here Nick Batt has nothing better to comment about other than the obvious fact of the word stats being spelled wrong. Just goes to show, your that guy who looks for the slightest thing wrong with people, just so you can make yourself feel better. No one gives a damn about your retard comments.
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Post time 6-3-2010 19:01:08 |Show all posts
poor randy. 69%. i was at 75% at the lowest, and i brought it all the way back up to 85%
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Post time 6-3-2010 19:20:20 |Show all posts
Thanks to wenbo very useful link, yupp tradewind I agree I feel like so eyesore, but I still manage to read all but very slow lol!~

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Post time 7-3-2010 00:37:01 |Show all posts
Here Nick Batt has nothing better to comment about other than the obvious fact of the word stats being spelled wrong. Just goes to show, your that guy who looks for the slightest thing wrong with peop ...
derrickmodesto@aol.com Post at 7-3-2010 09:53


Could you please grow up? I complimented the guide first. And it wasn't just one typo, Wenbo had misspelled stats throughout the entire guide. He was thankful and edited it.

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Post time 7-3-2010 02:41:33 |Show all posts
I dunno.... late game i thought speed was gonna be the best factor considering it does 3 things. Combo's, base turn, and dodge.

Combined with curse, if your dodging most of the incoming attacks, curse should pretty much demolish.

Also with high speed, and vital blow/tiger blow/combo strike/phantom strike. your getting lots of hits in, while destroying their weapons.

if 35 agility gives you 90% counter, then what would be the effects of 35 speed? 90% dodge? combo? and 3:1 turn base?

In most games, speed is what makes a character O.P. Final fantasy games, high speed rapes ex: FFX with tidus, and quick attack.

In games like WC3 blade master rapes all late game.

Dunno just my opinion
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Post time 7-3-2010 11:26:30 |Show all posts
13# derrickmodesto@aol.com


gratz for being a double-dick

first of all, nick was only showing up a typo that occured through the guide.
which really sucks in guides and so it's good that someone corrects it.

second of all, wow you're so cool,
my lowest win rate is 91%

do i run around and compare sizes because of it?



@topic,

i think speed will always stay my most loved attribute,
the only build that can stop a speed char is a full agi player,

but all other builds will fall to the ground when fighting a full speed build




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Post time 7-3-2010 13:01:50 |Show all posts
lol. looks like someone has a love for nicks cock
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Post time 7-3-2010 15:00:40 |Show all posts
hmmz indeed very usefull topic, still i could be happier since the fact remains that if you've got a losing character, it will stay a losing character at high levels, pets and prem skills negate the stat gap at low levels, but around 30ish its either lose, reincarnate or spend heaps on seeds.

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Post time 8-3-2010 16:29:19 |Show all posts
poor randy. 69%. i was at 75% at the lowest, and i brought it all the way back up to 85%
derrickmodesto@aol.com Post at 6-3-2010 21:01

You also got two rare pets... I think someone in Koram likes you. ;)

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