Ultimate Soldier 1 - Archer

Arthur Moo

Which one do u think is better for archer class ??

I have problem choosing my T4

i have access to all T4 but im more into cav / archer, any help will be appreciated

Arthur Moo

any comment guys ?

Phong

Best to ask your kingdom because it depends on what resources you have, how many plots you have opened and/or plan to open in the near future.  What heroes you have and what do you plan to pick for U2...

Arthur Moo

im not a gold user so my resources are normal and balanced

im not planning to go for US2 either and my heroes are balanced for all types except siege.

basically i can go for anything but right now archer is my fave

they walk slow tho

Phong

Well, quite a number of us are pumping out U2 right now so you are a bit at a disadvantage if you are on one of those older servers.  Best to pick Qiang for the defense.  Please note that U1 also eat way more food.  I would stick with Imperial Escort and move on to U2 archers.

Arthur Moo

Thanks , Im in server 6 and its like grave yard there.. im just using them for LMS, koram ruined this game with opening new server every 2 weeks or so..

Arthur Moo

it helps alot if you guys posting the reason

LQ

qiang guerillas, balance in reso build, perfect for player that not willing to exchange resource. high rate health but less in attack, well every type has more and less thing, but for my manor build. ithink qiang is the easiest to recruit. if u want to build the more advanced,beter to choose u2 than u1

Arthur Moo

i see but can anyone provide the number to give better understanding

shimmeringlight

generally if you want archer, you should go with northern assassin. but if you intend to have goliath, then crossbow elites will be the best. in fact, crossbow elites is one of the most offensive units in game, especially when they are in god-mode(on the wall), the attacking power is comparable to ultimate 2. In term of numbers, 163 base attack, their specialty raises around 10%-20% attack against all units, plus 50% more when on the wall, so a grand total of 163*1.2*1.5= 293.4. The average attacking power of ultimate 2 is around 310, so if you manage to hit some stupid people who use cavalry, crossbow elites does more damage than goliath, war elephant and rabid horseman.

Phong

10# shimmeringlight Wall only give defense not offense.

shimmeringlight

10# shimmeringlight Wall only give defense not offense.
Phong Post at 23-1-2011 12:01

a specialty called arrow storm.......

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T4 achers can never outdamage T5. Even on the wall. Crossbow elites are actually suk as crap coz if u notice they eat more food then T5 achers. And they die as easily as T3, dun deal a significant amount of damage, whereas t5 actually are a pain to kill and dish out alot of damage. Better to just mass produce T3 and some T5 but not T4 achers. I say best T4 are calvary.

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648771395 Sorry you are wrong.... with HZ and Crossbows on the wall vs t3 cavs does 800 to 1200 damage. Ive seen it on a few servers where Crossbows will do massive damage on the walls. But NA's take too long to build if you dont have the time or res... Food is never a Problem with me. Only t4 Cav that Ive seen what works well is White Stallions. Its a toss up between Archer and Cav t4 units, and depends on the hero set up as well

Slink

Im biased towards Mongolian Snipers myself...  
-Qiang Guerillas have the best def and march speed of the t4 archers, so they are decent for attack.
-Crossbow Elites have the best attack but thier def stats are lower than t2 archers..
-Mongolian Snipers have better attack than guerillas and better defense than crossbows, not to mention thier resource ratio is really similar to t3s. stone>wood>food>iron  thats prob the main reason i picked them to be honest

rave_dragonrebo

i dont like archers, they are only good for defending, put any archer on the ground with any troops on even condition and the archer will always be the first to fall.

ShuArmy

it real depends on what kind of heroes that you have and lead the archers.
If you play gold heroes, then definitely with high leadership (100+ or even 130+) u can get advantage of using archers.
Let's say u use Lu Xun with U1 archers or U2 archers and do Sea of Flames on surrounding enemies, that will be pain for the opposite, or Zhuge Liang and he use Thunder Call.
I'd prefer U1 archers since building U2 is very slow, except you want to spam with Roll Call Platforms or Call for Arms then you can use Northern Assasin as your U2 choice.
Now, I'm using Crossbow Elites, and I'm confident they will do damages in battlefield, both for defense or offense.

Snake_eyes

i dont like archers, they are only good for defending, put any archer on the ground with any troops on even condition and the archer will always be the first to fall.
[email protected] Post at 14-4-2011 12:00

TOTALLY Disagree, I used 26k Mongolians snipers in OFFENSE against Ma in s10, and It own BIG TIME in each battle.

I dun think its the unit type that differs how weak are they but the player how he chooses to use them in battle.

Archers I dare to say can be offense defence anywhere anytime, depends how u use it in war battlefield.

btw in my opinian, u1 archer is the only one I think doesnt have either best or worst archer type. Its a balance to all 3.
Players who chose Xbows is for fast pace high leadership players but Xbows is a risk itself with defence as low as 31.
Qiangs Have higher defence, low res/quick recruitment time but weak attack power, doesnt have the damage enough for offense but their troop in numbers balance in for offense.
Mongolians Snipers is a balance of both with better defence then Xbows, stronger attack then Qiangs. hence its a balance unit but neither strong in both.

Xbows killed first(first strike) or be killed in later rounds
Qiangs wont be able to kill much but wont be killed easily like xbows
Mongolian Snipers kill calvs easily more then Xbows/Qiangs but still weak defence despite better then xbows.

DKTyka

It all comes down to your style of play and whats happening on your server.

For non gold users I would recommend the Qiangs. Aside from their fairly even resource requirements the fact that they have the bonus defense means they die less and thus you have to replace less. This will free up more of your resources for U2 units as you wont be needing to replace your U1 as much.

Hareez

As gold player hunter, I choose Crossbow