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Post time 30-3-2010 02:41:35 |Show all posts
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What city/cities to place your mansion or annex.
What city structures are useless after a certain time.

THIS IS  A LONG RUN GUIDE. i believe if you work hard, you can even topple the emperor. (you need to spend some gold too T.T) this 2 guide are linked to make a very powerful mansion city.



What city/cities to place your mansion or annex.
I am going to explain how you can make full advantage of mansion. As food will be the most important resource in the late game. I suggest that you should build your mansion city on an 15flag with 3 50% farm oasis. Reason is to keep alot of attack units for 1 finish touch to even enemy's state city.
I done this calculation before.

State cities (9flag) food output is around 200k as they have 150% resource bonus due to emperor road buff.

In mansion city, 3 50% farm oasis will cover up that emperor road buff. Compare to state cities, mansion city have 15farm land, better than the state 9flag.

so, as everyone know, mansion can upgrade resource field to level 20.
level 20 farm = 4500/hr
4500 x 15farms = 67500/hr (woah, excluding bonus)

67500 x 25%mill bonus = 16875
16875 + 67500 = 84375/hr (15flag cities total output excluding oasis and politic)

with the 3 50% oasis = 150%
84375 x 150% = 126562
126562 + 84375 =  210937.5 (TOTAL, better than the STATE CAPITAL!!, w/o politic)


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well to make this interesting, i making myself an example.
i have emperor's order, 3 epic hero, pang tong, sima yi and guo jia and the level 4 league resource bonus.

-emperor order provide 25% food bonus.
-my pang tong could provide another 25% food bonus because of his max 120 politic
-guo jia, pangtong and sima yi have their skill which increase food output by 25%
so 3 heroes with 25% skill food bonus = 75% food bonus. (yes it stack even though not all of them can be make governor)
-league level 4 provide me 6% bonus food output

TOTAL UP = 25% + 25% + 75% + 6% = 131% FOOD BONUS!!
210937.5 x 131% = 276328.125
210936.5 + 276328.125 = 487264.62 FOOD / HOUR!

i can keep more 487k army if i only build infantry in just 1 CITY. compare to state 200k. wont it be a finishing touch if i launch a full scale attack?

i can make this more interesting too, find some 15flags with 2 food oasis and keep sending your mansion city food. your mansion city could even keep like 600k troop (with negative food of cause).

What city structures are useless after a certain time.
So if everyone were to ask. level 19-20 resource field may cost alot of resource, how can we provide that enough resources to upgrade due to our resource capacity.

do not fear.
-Armorsmith, weaponsmith, valor and library, can be convert to granary or warehouse when you fully upgraded.
-Monitor office is good, but i think to make more capacity, you have to sarcrific your office for warehouse/gran
-drillground is useless after you research every units
-bunker, hidden ware, theathre and league flag. that goes without saying.

and for desperate additional ware, you could consider taking away ironwork and career centre.
so why?
because you could make a demolisher town in other sub cities, demolisher eat alot of food and its better you have a cities specialise for it. as for career centre, oasis would not* disappear when u demolish career centre.

this is my guide on how to make the most powerful city in tko. thank you (: i accept comments. currently playing S5 GuanDu. support me (:
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Post time 30-3-2010 03:53:07 |Show all posts
wow nice i didn't know about the career center part...1 question tho wouldn't your hero capacity be reduced by like a couple in your main?

to save space i am thinking of making my main having only a barrack the most for defense and destroying scout camps,ironworks,stables ... because i heard u need 13 WH to upgrade res fields to max lvl or so... the 4446 ones.
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Post time 30-3-2010 05:09:12 |Show all posts
i not sure how much lvl 19-20 will cost. but i think it would take more than 10 WH just to upgrade max it. well i will be using master craftmen if i cant take it. haha

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Post time 30-3-2010 11:57:58 |Show all posts
487k army!!! wow!!!!

then how about a normal city? how many army can hold?

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487k army!!! wow!!!!

then how about a normal city? how many army can hold?
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that depend on which area you build and wad oasis the area offer. lvl 10 farmland = 300food/hour.

6farmland = 1800 x 25%mill = 2250/hr
9farmland = 2700 x 25%mill = 3375/hr
15farmland = 4500 x 25%mill = 5625/hr

to me, sub cities were just make to send resources, build demo town, defense town. that all. unless you are a very hardcore player who could multi plunder in every cities, you can have alot of troop in your sub too. but i be very stress up to do this everyday.

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wow nice i didn't know about the career center part...1 question tho wouldn't your hero capacity be reduced by like a couple in your main?

to save space i am thinking of making my main having only a  ...
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your hero wont reduce. before you demolish your career centre, for example it is 8/8. after demolished, it will be 8/7. mean your heroes still stay but u gonna work hard in other sub cities to get an additional hero.

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off topic: lol CY, never though u're a moderator here .
You didn't do a good job on hiding yourself btw, I can see your coordinate, type it in s5 and voila

on topic: the resource needed to upgrade farm or any other resources field beyond lvl 14/15 is worthless, better to use that resources and recruit more army or transfer that resource to your county capitals or other cities to create even more army. No use to have more food output but not enough army to eat those extra food right?

But beside that, I agree that 15c is the one and only one you want to be your main city. And in reality there's no way any 15c can compete with state capitals in equal term. State capitals not only has bonus food output, it has very high wood/iron/stone output that enables you to infinitely recruit army from barrack/stable/scout camp (no need to plunder, 24/7 non stop recruit, your 15c need you to constantly plunder to spam recruit, it's impossible to have 24/7 recruit in your 15c unless you're sharing your account, people need some rest and they do have life outside this game)
Not to mention that  state capitals has bonus recruit speed (I think you forget about this). 15c need to build up the farm first (resources lost, state has more army now) and even if it has lvl 20 barrack/stable/scout camp, state capitals has bonus recruit speed. And don't forget the person who has the state capitals should also has his main 15c city spamming army as well.
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on topic: the resource needed to upgr ...
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If you have your resources at 14/15 and have the usual feeder villages, your barracks/stable & siege should be running 24/7 ... upgrading past 14/15 is well worth it.

While it may be your opinion, a 15c (15-1-1-1) is not necessarily the only choice  for a Hammer village . An upgraded 4-4-4-6 will give you excellent resource production supplemented by 15 & 9c feeders.

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Post time 1-4-2010 17:49:40 |Show all posts
im having a hard time to build my subs
as we all know the max lvl of resources are 10
i cant build enough cav
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Post time 1-4-2010 17:54:26 |Show all posts
intresting concept bro
that means youve got to build enough granaries too

Q : where do i find the 9 or 15 flags city bro?
and does it need a certain nobility to occupy them?
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im having a hard time to build my subs
as we all know the max lvl of resources are 10
i cant build enough cav
1409801745@facebook Post at 1-4-2010 04:49 PM


I'm not sure how many villages you have ... but, use the resources from your Main and other villages & transfer them to the village that needs resources. In the meantime, raid other villages & get the resource fields up.

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intresting concept bro
that means youve got to build enough granaries too

Q : where do i find the 9 or 15 flags city bro?
and does it need a certain nobility to occupy them?
thx
1409801745@facebook Post at 1-4-2010 04:54 PM



If you look on your map, you will see flags with a 9 or 15 on them.

These have troops in them & need to be killed before you can settle them with Pioneers ... it will take many troops 1st ... just work on what you have right now so your villages are really starting to produce

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U mAY HaVE TO RECONSIDER UR MATH PLS! 12656 + 84375=97031

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U mAY HaVE TO RECONSIDER UR MATH PLS! 12656 + 84375=97031
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with the 3 50% oasis = 150%
84375 x 150% = 126562
12656 + 84375 =  210937.5

typo as u can see. its 126562 instead of 12656

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off topic: lol CY, never though u're a moderator here .
You didn't do a good job on hiding yourself btw, I can see your coordinate, type it in s5 and voila

on topic: the resource needed to upgr ...
701666663@facebook Post at 2-4-2010 06:27


LOL blasted, u caught me. i forgot to erase that coor, nvm. haha

yeah i understand state capital is good in term of their extra bonus. but some of the player do not have county and state i might give them some tips on how to make 1 to be on par with others players. its really a very long way, to make 1 very good mansion city, its just take effort. for me, having a state, i get really paranoid 1 day that my city will be overtake by other ppl. so i start out building my little state. its to be safe thn sorry haha, and i at least have something to play with if my epic city is taken down. comparing state and mansion city, the food output of mansion city will still be superior thn the state (not to mention other resources).

as for the resource part, to keep troop running 24 hrs will be quite a prob. but i believe as you play, your sub cities grows in times too. build some sub cities enough to send resources to your mansion+plundering. i got alot of big food in my area (: so i just recuit troop as my mansion cities grows. well, this conclude on where mansion city can be place in.

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Post time 2-4-2010 11:50:52 |Show all posts
Excellent guide on mansion/annex placement!
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Excellent guide on mansion/annex placement!
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Post Last Edit by Chris Jack at 3-4-2010 22:01

as for career centre, oasis would disappear when u demolish career centre.

Are you sure about that, I know that If you switch you mansion for a annexe you keep all your oasis.
In server 14 I currently have 2 oasis for a CC lv 15  and a annexe in one of my city.

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Post Last Edit by 561313165@facebook at 4-4-2010 00:05

oh. sry i mean will not disappear. i would not put up building that will creat negative food output to your mansion

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Post time 3-4-2010 20:48:37 |Show all posts
Okay I got a few questions, if anyone willing to help me.

Description that I found at Mansion.
"When you build a Mansion, this city will become your Main city. Only the Main City can upgrade its Resource Fields to higher than level 20"

1. Is it true that you can build resource's field more than level 20?

2. If I destroy my mansion cuz I need space for my warehouse, what will happen to my lvl18-19 resource's field? (ofc I wont make any mansion in any other subcity) and also any side effects by destroying the mansion?

3. I have another account at another server. I didnt make any mansion or annexe cuz I'm not sure whether I'll make this city as my main yet. And yet my resource's field can go over lvl 10 without a mansion or an annexe. Is this a bug or if I make another city and put a mansion in it, will I have 2 cities with lvl20 capabilities (resource's field)?

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