05/05/12 Citys NPC stats at 0 for a period of time

Rodan1

I rest my case

Rodan1

bump thread

bambam7

is not right to punish the players who play fair because some players dont do that.you must look in players account to see ho know about the bug and ho dont,and punish the non fair players only

Hroden

Which, despite what some people seem to believe, is what most of us were asking for in the first place.  Wolf  as a whole is being punished for the actions of a small, select few.  I don't know if Dant or Blasfmer took part directly.  Only know they did little to contain/control the ones that did it, and merely assumed the rest of the alliances would do the same.  As it goes normally, you would take the leader of the group, the officers that were supposed to be controlling the situation, and those others that participated that made use of the bug, and either ban them for several days to a week, or remove them and their account, depending on how bad they exploited the system.

And, do notice when mentioning 'exploiters', I didn't name anyone or any group as guilty parties.  I even went so far as to even say I don't know if the two most outspoken defenders when this came up even took a direct part in the abuse of the bug.  We wanted ALL the exploiters to be punished appropriately for what they have done.  The leaders of the groups that allowed this would also need to bare some of the punishment as well, even if they didn't directly take part, because they allowed it to continue unchecked.

Anyways, it seems in S1, few people outside of Wolf seem trust them to keep their word.  i wonder what brought that on?

Hroden

Rodan1

bump thread till resolve

sodomizer

The matter has been resolved. They have said this. Them saying NPC 0 Stats Bug Solution Notice [Final] kinda tips you off they are finished with the matter. You may not like the result, but the game does not cater to you. And on a side note you got a completely built 30% gold city as well. Hope you get your refund Rodan, Bye.

Pipja

So Koram, when are you going to look into the exploiters and fix their stats? punish them for cheating? like you said in your "final" package, when "will" this actually happen?

sodomizer

"For players whose Exploits Increasing is abnormal during the bug period, we will check your data and deduct your Exploits gained from the bug."

this was already taken care of by koram. they did not take the exploits from the coalition but they were deducted from players.

Rodan1

sodomizer the troll never sleeps.

sodomizer

Rodan1 replied at 12-5-2012 19:20
sodomizer the troll never sleeps.

Actually Rodan I was pointing out that the actions have already been taken. But keep bumping a post that already had the question answered.

Pipja

deduct exploit doesn't do a damn thing to punish exploiters, but then again, Koram always double-standard so that's to be expected.

sodomizer

Pipja replied at 12-5-2012 20:24
deduct exploit doesn't do a damn thing to punish exploiters, but then again, Koram always double-sta ...

That was the punishment they decided upon, they took the points. I was simply answering the question of when that was going to take place. Not debating if it was enough. You can disagree with the punishment, but I doubt much will be done anymore as they amended the 1st resolution. Then specifically answered with a new resolution which they titled final.

Avarita

Valklyrs can you please lock this Thread? After all it was solved and thread dont have any more function.

Hroden

Funny, didn't see the score drop for any coalition.  Unless of course they can gain mad exploit points when there was no serious action done.  My only question left is to the Mod: did those 'points' get removed at all yet?  Doesn't appear to of taken place as of yet.  Unless I missed something in the math, there's at least 400k exploit points still there that probably shouldn't be.

Hroden

sodomizer

Hroden replied at 13-5-2012 15:27
Funny, didn't see the score drop for any coalition.  Unless of course they can gain mad exploit poin ...

they removed them from the PLAYERS, which they said they would do. they never mentioned coalition having them removed. i saw zero mention of coalition exploit removal.

Hroden

I will admit, I wasn't in beta, nor do I claim to know the inner working of coalition exploit point tallies, but, that goes up with players within the coalition gain it, does it not?  The logical jump would be if you remove from the player, it should come out of the coalition they are a part of as well.  Honestly, it doesn't affect me either way.  And, it is a valid question to be asked.

Hroden

sodomizer

it is a valid question and i can understand the reason you ask it, they didnt specify coalition tally is why i mentioned strictly players. i can tell you i was surprised it didnt also as when i left wolf i lost all my cp points and that adds up like exploits. i can say ranking means zero atm for coalition except a number on the screen however in the future if it did mean something i can understand your concern.