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Post time 31-5-2010 01:27:02 |Show all posts
Dear TKO players,

Many players tell us that Emperor’s Road is not easy for common people to go, but once you have taken some State Capitals, you will be an extraordinary lord and almost be invincible. So some people suggest it shall be closed concerning the game balance. However, some say that it is very fun to conquer those capitals and to be an Emperor or Empire leaders such as Cao Cao, Lord of Wei.

Therefore, we would like to invite you to do this survey and tell us your opinions. For the moment, the Emperor’s Road will be delayed since S22. If most people like this feature, we will open it again. Meanwhile, we are developing new game features which will be as interesting as Emperor’s Road. Hope this will bring you more enjoyable game experience in TKO.


Survey is closed, and the feedback will be announced soon.
Many thanks for your paticipation.

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Post time 31-5-2010 07:36:52 |Show all posts
Give Us the ER back!

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Post time 31-5-2010 09:25:07 |Show all posts
Your right, ER is not fun for everyone as its not easy and takes quite a few soldiers to participate in. Maybe they could find a replacement event similiar to koth?
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Post time 31-5-2010 09:50:33 |Show all posts
I think that if it were adjusted in some way to make it fair to everyone , then it would be viable.

Usually a server progression goes like this:

1.) Server opens,  everyone frantically builds their first city as fast as possible.

2.) Within a week, the people who spent gold now have a second city.

3.) People with lots of money to spend on the game are building much faster and are moving up in nobility ranks quickly.

4.) After 3 weeks, the top ranked people usually take all of the rewards in KoTH creating an even larger discrepancy in resource/city/army development.

5.)  After a month usually there is one league that has all of the top players in it, shifting the balance of the server to a monopoly.

6.)  The top ranked league usually takes 80-100% of the counties.  Another unfair advantage.

7.)  After 2 months, 80-100% of the capitals are taken by the top league.  Another unfair advantage.

8.)  At 2 months the capitol is taken by the top league and the server is pretty much decided.
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Post time 31-5-2010 09:54:33 |Show all posts
WOW, you've just mapped out every server I've played on.
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Post time 31-5-2010 10:42:02 |Show all posts
Post Last Edit by Tsao at 31-5-2010 19:02

Post Last Edit by [email protected] at 1-6-2010 01:46

did you happen to notice that no.6 to no.7 won't happen if you dont put a crazy advantage when you have [alot] of gold?
it's your gold system that is totally flawed, not ER.
The gold player just simply further boost their gap with the other player with ER as they able to capture the capitals a lot faster and easier than non-gold player. To capture capitals, you have to kill 15k and 30k defender. Now without gold do you think this is an easy task?

If there are no ER you think it will makes any differences? those gold player can just use their massive army to clean and demo all their enemies.
You think if there are no ER it would remove the unfairness of the game?
ER = an epic weapon that everyone can get if they're able to pass the requirement (paying it with lots of army), everyone can get it.
gold = a cheat that is sold to the player, only the rich can use it.
Now which one you think that cause the unfairness in this game? ER? think again.
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Post time 31-5-2010 11:54:53 |Show all posts
ER = an epic weapon that everyone can get if they're able to pass the requirement (paying it with lots of army), everyone can get it.
gold = a cheat that is sold to the player, only the rich can use it.
Now which one you think that cause the unfairness in this game? ER? think again.

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Post time 31-5-2010 12:23:00 |Show all posts
ER just adds to the unfairness of the game, and with it leaving I think a lot of players will not spend as much gold.
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Post time 31-5-2010 12:34:54 |Show all posts
Tsao: What your post just described is not so much a problem in emperor's road, but rather the huge advantage gold vs non-gold players have. Changing Emperor's road is not going to change the fact an experienced gold player could trample nearly every non-gold player.

That being said, up until AFTER i captured a Blue County, i have never played with gold, and despite that i was able to capture my own county without anyones help. Capturing a purple on my own without gold would have been difficult though.

Basically what im trying to say is, Emperor's Road is not suppose to be fair to everyone. Its survival of the fittest. Either you shape up or ship out. That doesn't mean the current system cannot be improved though.

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Post time 31-5-2010 12:50:34 |Show all posts
Hi Tsao & April, All,

I agree with your points in most respects... However when a player has 'invested' into a server then you take away part of the game once the server has started... I find this hard to take at the moment. Yes I spend real cash on GOLD but without gold who will pay the Koramgame bills? There has to be an incentive of some sort to actually spend money on a 'game'.

My opinion is that it should be restored for all OPEN servers and going forward pre-warn people before they join whether it is an ER or non ER server. I joined S23 will full intention of spending cash to achieve greatness - not to have ER  - something I look forward to removed mid-game.

Unacceptable in my view...

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Post time 31-5-2010 12:58:31 |Show all posts
Unfairness?

Emperor's Road is the reason why most people are playing this game. By the way taking away the Emperor's Road at this time is quite unfair for those who aim for it from the start! hard earned contribution value will be gone to waste..

I'm one of the gold user that aims for the higher nobility rankings after S22..  In earlier servers I played, players without using gold can still achieve great achievements.. so why take the ER event out now?

Emperor's Road it's not about unfairness, it's about how committed you are..

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Post time 31-5-2010 13:35:11 |Show all posts
Hi Again...

Found a post from February 22nd...

Dear friends,

Hope you are enjoying your time in Three Kingdoms’ era.

Recently, we have heard rumors about Emperor’s Road, saying that game data will be deleted and Emperor’s Road will start all over again if a certain player keeps the winning records for a long time.

Here we would like to clarify that Emperor’s Road will keep running in all servers. We would NOT delete any data related and reset the function even if some leagues take control of a certain server.

As far as we consider, fighting to be an emperor is the dream of every warrior. An old Chinese saying goes like that” He who doesn't want to be a general isn't a good soldier”. Dominate forever? Why not.

Anyway, rumors on Emperor’s Road are not true. Welcome to report such issues on our in-game function. In this case, any reported account regarding making and spreading rumors will be frozen once been verified.

For more information about the tips on Emperor’s Road, please check  Emperor’s Road Detailed Instructions



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Again just to reinforce my point.... why take it away mid-server...  Thanks...

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Post time 31-5-2010 14:30:00 |Show all posts
ER just adds to the unfairness of the game, and with it leaving I think a lot of players will not spend as much gold.
Jake Post at 1-6-2010 03:23


What's unfair about giving a "weapon" that can be acquired by any player worthy enough to met the requirement?
Go to any multi-player games, ask them if those weapons/items they get from defeating NPC boss and later used to pawn other player in PvP is unfair.
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Post time 31-5-2010 16:43:20 |Show all posts
I am on S23 and have spend a small fortune over the last 2 months (over 2,000 American dollars) building one of the top accounts on this server I promise I am one of the top gold user on this server! You can check my account (Darkhoney), I play KOTH every chance I can (currently rank top champion for nationals and XP region), have taken two counties solo, built the top ranked arena champion off and on over the entire time of the server, and currently ranks number 1 and 4. And spent a large amount of money on court rank to prepared for emperors road, which you have now removed from game, making a vast amount of money I have spend on it endeavor, now very very unless! If you ask me, It's all a waste of money now that emperor road been removed, even postponed delayed the advantage of the building that has already occurred! I say with breach of contact by changing the game making it unplayable at the moment , I rather you send me back all my money!
I came into this game from S3 fully aware that the Emperor road was a 2 month commitment to hard work and spending a lot of money to be successful was a top ranked player from s3 and spend a lot of time building also on this account learning the game! Now days before the event is to launch you suspend it with a chance on not coming back! I like return of all my moneys for a game you now have change beyond original release, to the point at the moment there is no CONCEPT FOR END GAME CONTENT! RIGHT now we have counties city and high court rank and NO GAME, TAKEN OUR MONEY AND ROBBED US OF A GAME! NOT including all the time we  have taken and build armies up for with nothing left to do in the game? siting with over 3 huge armies all over 15k and nothing to do! No states are releasing as planned within 4 days!
And the gold we used to achieve our goals within the game are now unless?
Adding events for more resources kits are useless (already got huge amount of them from the KOTH that are useless), The only content left is farming the Escort guardians which is waste of time for hit EG one day I hit 40 times before I found a epic general (at cost of 20-25 guardsmen and 3-4 cav per attempt, that 800-1000 guardsmen and 120-160 cav archers plus 10 minute per attempt in time, or 400 minutes hence over 6 hours in time), at the moment they are dropping really random crap! Seriously, we now have nothing to do or look forward too, and the gold we used to prepare for the game you had designed in now useless! You change a game into nothing I rather you just return all my moneys I have spend over last 2 months on this server, TOO bad you cannot pay for me two months of my time and energy also placed in this game you now destroyed!

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Post time 31-5-2010 17:16:26 |Show all posts
What's unfair about giving a "weapon" that can be acquired by any player worthy enough to met the requirement?
Go to any multi-player games, ask them if those weapons/items they get from defeating  ...
[email protected] Post at 31/5/2010 03:30 PM

Worthy? Is that a joke? Spending hours of time and loads of cash on a game doesn't make you worthy, it just makes you a nerd with no life.
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Post time 31-5-2010 17:20:34 |Show all posts
Post Last Edit by [email protected] at 1-6-2010 08:25

Post Last Edit by [email protected] at 1-6-2010 08:24

I have played on many different servers. I started on S2 when it opened and have played S3,  S7, S11, S17, S21, and now S23. There is no part of emperors road that cannot be achieved without using gold. Granted gold gets you there much faster, but anyone can do it if they have the dedication and join a very active league. By taking away ER after counties open, is quite unfair. These people came into these servers with the expectations of competing in ER, many have spent money on gold in preparation for this. Now you plan on taking it away? Is Koramgame going to refund the money that was spent? I highly doubt it. Koramgame pumps out a new server about every 2 weeks, so if there are many people that feel ER is unfair, then make the new servers without ER, do not take away from those who have come into these servers expecting to compete in ER.  Reinstate ER in the existing servers and make a new server ER free in order to see how it goes. If you can make 30 servers with ER and people still are playing them, then why take ER away? Without ER, there is no reason to spend gold on this game, therefore Koramgame is going to lose future incomes. They have just made court rank useless to those who spent money on it, so what reason do these people have to spend more money? I know that without ER I will not spend another dime on TKO.

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Post time 31-5-2010 17:32:55 |Show all posts
There is still reasons to spend gold on servers with no ER. Building up regular cities is still plenty of fun!! And court rank is not useless. The reason for ranking is to give you high attack and defense bonus's. For example, if you have a lot of farms and gold a 15c main should be just as good as a state capital. The only reason I like ER is that I can store my troops at a league buddies ER city.
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Post time 31-5-2010 17:51:43 |Show all posts
In my old server, my league captured nearly 5 state capitals.. and NONE of us were gold users..

Emp Road didn't add unfairness to the game... it just weeded out the strong from the weak (although this process is much too sudden.. basically in the time-span of around 1 week the face of the server changes). Despite none of us using gold, our core players just had an amazing level of determination and commitment to the game. We shared knowledge and information with each other and we learned from mistakes fast. We also had players who would selflessly sacrifice their troops so another person may occupy those state capitals all in the name of our league.

Anyway as this is a suggestions forum i think it would be more productive if we all focused on coming up with suggestions or solutions rather than whining/debating about how unfair gold or Emp Road is..

I firmly believe the process of Emp Road is just too sudden. Players in anticipation for the date/time build up an immense army and as soon as it opens try to grab as many as possible.. this is the same for County Capitals. I would suggest

a) A staggered release of County Capitals and State Capitals.. this way players are forced into more fighting and competition as each individual/multiple capital opens. As only a limited amount open each day/week, there is a greater risk in attempting to own it.

b) For important capitals, such as Pu-yang, Cheng-du, Jian-ye & Luo-yang, similar to Koth, make special case travelling times to reach these cities in China. Im not suggesting 4min or 8min, im talking about at least a few hours, 6-12hrs possibly with a slight advantage to those closer. This game provides too much geographic advantage. Experienced players know to create their accounts in specific states or the entire league crowding these states. Rich, seasoned veterans know how to 'move' their cities right next to the purple. You essentially kill off alot of the fighting and competition this way.

c) There is just too much of a lack of awareness regarding the event. Lets be honest.. dont you find there is a problem with the game, when people need to search through a forum just to find out how many npc's are inside? I remember when i mass messaged my league asking who wanted to participate, and many people reply me "What is emperor's road?? What do i need to do?? How many troops do i need??"

d) Remove the bonus 20% recruit speed from state capitals or lower it to like 5% or something. That bonus is just too overpowered.. Recruit Assistant already provides such a huge bonus.. now you give them +20% recruit speed and +33k resource an hour... its just too imbalanced.

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Post time 31-5-2010 18:38:24 |Show all posts
Keep ER, fix gold imbalances.  Let me state that if I use gold, it is primarily after I get a county or state.  and it is primarily to Recruit Assist.  An experienced player who understands the game can win counties and states without gold.  The difference is, a gold player can do it without the experience.

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Post time 31-5-2010 19:22:38 |Show all posts
i spent a small fortune in  s22 and the day of the purple released they took away the emporers road. That sucked.Its bs what they did but I hope they fix it soon. I am all for a server without emporers road but you just need to say it from the get go. To take the current servers and just say no we arent gonna do this now that you are ready to take one is bologna.I wont play a server without emporers road but for those who cry about a friendly competiton can feel free to go where there is no real challenges. Lets be honest to our customers and tell them what new servers will entail and not change 2 months after they start. I agree with gabefu. For us gold users currently invested in a server you screw us by taking things away that were there from the start. It is the whole reason I play s22 was to gain capitals.BRING THEM BACK OR I STOP EVER SPENDING MONEY OR REFERING FRIENDS TO PLAY THIS GAME!!!!!!!!

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